bird 10,014 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 just heard on the Radio , that anyone who as a dangerous dog, which as bite someone, or out of control .Will get( sent down for 18 months-2 years ) . They said they are going to clamp down on owners of these dogs, if it stops dog attacks so be it was what they said, this was on (heart radio ) .!! wonder if it will work .? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoChara 1,632 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Yea, caught the tail end of it on the news this morning. All the usual pictures up of snarling staffies and growling rotties, which i dont agree with 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GrCh 856 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 it wont work to many backyard breeders making alot of money from these dogs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trigger2 3,601 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 feck me some of the youths/chavs will love love that. i can just imagine some of them bragging about having a asbo and doing time for owning a dangerous dog lol. on a serious not i dont see it working the prisons are full enough as it is. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tegater 789 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 just heard on the Radio , that anyone who as a dangerous dog, which as bite someone, or out of control .Will get( sent down for 18 months-2 years ) . They said they are going to clamp down on owners of these dogs, if it stops dog attacks so be it was what they said, this was on (heart radio ) .!! wonder if it will work .? Thats it though, it has been brought in, to deal with the owners of dogs, that "ARE dangerously out of control" If that stops some kid being mauled, then so be it. I am guessing that the majority of dog owners are responsible, and couln't possibly have anything to worry about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,793 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 And how will they define dangerous or out of control? This is what scares me the most, who are the so called experts are who make these decisions. A dog barking, snarling, guarding it's owner/property...will that be included? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tegater 789 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 And how will they define dangerous or out of control? This is what scares me the most, who are the so called experts are who make these decisions. A dog barking, snarling, guarding it's owner/property...will that be included? I am guessing, and it is only a guess, that if your dog is on your property and cannot attack anyone else, then it can snarl and bark all it wants because, it "isn't out of control". The fact that it cant get to anybody else, means it's under control. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,793 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 And how will they define dangerous or out of control? This is what scares me the most, who are the so called experts are who make these decisions. A dog barking, snarling, guarding it's owner/property...will that be included? I am guessing, and it is only a guess, that if your dog is on your property and cannot attack anyone else, then it can snarl and bark all it wants because, it "isn't out of control". The fact that it cant get to anybody else, means it's under control. They are trying to amend the law so it does include private property. But what about outside your property. We have all had dogs who will suddenly take a dislike to someone strange (wearing a hat) or something else. Normally sound dogs. I don't know, yes i agree if it helps stop horrific child attacks, and chavs with time bombs on leads, but you usually find these laws cover so much more, and the innocents get caught up in it. George Orwell was so right, wont be long before we have no control over any aspect of our lives. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tegater 789 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 And how will they define dangerous or out of control? This is what scares me the most, who are the so called experts are who make these decisions. A dog barking, snarling, guarding it's owner/property...will that be included? I am guessing, and it is only a guess, that if your dog is on your property and cannot attack anyone else, then it can snarl and bark all it wants because, it "isn't out of control". The fact that it cant get to anybody else, means it's under control. They are trying to amend the law so it does include private property. But what about outside your property. We have all had dogs who will suddenly take a dislike to someone strange (wearing a hat) or something else. Normally sound dogs. I don't know, yes i agree if it helps stop horrific child attacks, and chavs with time bombs on leads, but you usually find these laws cover so much more, and the innocents get caught up in it. George Orwell was so right, wont be long before we have no control over any aspect of our lives. Yes I understand what you mean and I dont know the answer. I am trying to find the act or whatever it is that has changed so that I can read up on it, or at least post a link to it on here, but all I can find on google is press releases which all say the same thing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 some of the propsed changes are on the bottom of this http://dangerousdogs...ntrol-bill.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Millet 4,497 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 feck me some of the youths/chavs will love love that. i can just imagine some of them bragging about having a asbo and doing time for owning a dangerous dog lol. on a serious not i dont see it working the prisons are full enough as it is. Your right about them bragging about doing jail..my brother had to go to court for a driving offence last year..the waiting room was full of chav's laughing and joking about who was going to get sent down for the longest time ..one of them even said he was buzzing cos he was looking at 28day's.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoChara 1,632 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I doubt very much that they will lock up anyone who owns one of them snappy wee dogs such as a Pomeranian or a chihuahua - they can give a bad bite sometimes, and ok a staff or rottie etc will do more damage than one of the small breeds but still. Nah it will only be staffy, rottie and any bull type owners that will be put away. Its just plain wrong putting a stamp on everyone who owns such a breed, ok the chav's and youths that think they're hard with that type of dog fair enough. I hate all the pictures that are floating about with the headline dangerous dogs are all them types of breeds! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,793 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 some of the propsed changes are on the bottom of this http://dangerousdogs...ntrol-bill.html http://dangerousdogs...bility-for.html All of it scary imo, but these 2 are the worst.... Section 2 (1) (a) originally stated no person shall allow a dog to be aggressive or dangerously out of control in public or private. This is a change to the current Dangerous Dogs Act which does not cover private property where a dog is allowed to be. Section 2 (1) © makes it an offence to keep a dog that has attacked another person or protected animal without reasonable cause. Definitions of reasonable cause are given in the next section. Section 2 (1) © could lead to thousands of dogs having to be destroyed as they cannot legally be kept following an incident however the amendments suggest the wording should be changed to deal with this problem. Protected animal may include any animal other than rats or rabbit on permissioned land. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratreeper 441 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It would sound like a good idea if it worked, but I agree with those that cannot trust those who are given the title 'expert' when history seems to show they are all ignorant and very, very prejudice against certain 'types'. But at least they are targeting the owners and not singling out random breeds, or that is what is implied anyway which is a nice change of pace from the dangerous dogs act. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 this seems to have been amended & updated very recently http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/homeandcommunity/inyourhome/animalsandpets/dogs/dg_180008 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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